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		<title>Admin1: Text replace - &quot;| Ryan }}&quot; to &quot;| Ryan:Ryan Scott }}&quot;</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What this means, practically speaking, is that you should file the improper joinder demurrer even when the facts might support joinder, as long as the indictment itself is deficient because it doesn't have the necessary language in it.&amp;#160; You'd do the same thing for an indictment that appeared to violate the SOL, even if you believe there were facts to support the extended SOL.&amp;#160; Why?&amp;#160; Because if you lose the demurrer in front of the trial court, it might win at the COA. In that situation, at worst your client gets a new trial.&amp;#160; At best, it is now too late to reindict.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What this means, practically speaking, is that you should file the improper joinder demurrer even when the facts might support joinder, as long as the indictment itself is deficient because it doesn't have the necessary language in it.&amp;#160; You'd do the same thing for an indictment that appeared to violate the SOL, even if you believe there were facts to support the extended SOL.&amp;#160; Why?&amp;#160; Because if you lose the demurrer in front of the trial court, it might win at the COA. In that situation, at worst your client gets a new trial.&amp;#160; At best, it is now too late to reindict.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ryan@ryanscottlaw.com at 16:00, May 14, 2013</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just as the statute of limitations for felony Theft is three years, the presumptive indictment is only allowed to contain a single count.&amp;#160; Sound crazy?&amp;#160; ORS 132.560 says:&amp;#160; &amp;quot;(1) A charging instrument '''must charge but one offense, and in one form only'''. . . .&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just as the statute of limitations for felony Theft is three years, the presumptive indictment is only allowed to contain a single count.&amp;#160; Sound crazy?&amp;#160; ORS 132.560 says:&amp;#160; &amp;quot;(1) A charging instrument '''must charge but one offense, and in one form only'''. . . .&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But wait, what did I leave out and replace with that ellipsis?&amp;#160; Well, I left out the &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; to one count rule.&amp;#160;  The full sentence says:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But wait, what did I leave out and replace with that ellipsis?&amp;#160; Well, I left out the &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; to one&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;count&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-per-indictment &lt;/ins&gt;rule.&amp;#160;  The full sentence says:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(1) A charging instrument must charge but one offense, and in one form only, except that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(1) A charging instrument must charge but one offense, and in one form only, except that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ryan@ryanscottlaw.com at 04:42, May 14, 2013</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(a) If the offense has as a material element either fraud or the breach of a fiduciary obligation, prosecution may be commenced within one year after discovery of the offense by an aggrieved party or by a person who has a legal duty to represent an aggrieved party and who is not a party to the offense, but in no case shall the period of limitation otherwise applicable be extended by more than three years;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(a) If the offense has as a material element either fraud or the breach of a fiduciary obligation, prosecution may be commenced within one year after discovery of the offense by an aggrieved party or by a person who has a legal duty to represent an aggrieved party and who is not a party to the offense, but in no case shall the period of limitation otherwise applicable be extended by more than three years;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;summary&amp;gt;So here is my question:&amp;#160; when the indictment is filed 4 years after the incident occurred, does the indictment in your county -- in order to survive the challenge -- allege that the discovery of the offense was discovered by the aggrieved party with the past year?&amp;#160; That is, does the indictment allege the language necessary to &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;justify &lt;/del&gt;the &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; to the 3 year statute of limitations?&amp;lt;/summary&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;summary&amp;gt;So here is my question:&amp;#160; when the indictment is filed 4 years after the incident occurred, does the indictment in your county -- in order to survive the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;facial &lt;/ins&gt;challenge -- allege that the discovery of the offense was discovered by the aggrieved party with the past year?&amp;#160; That is, does the indictment allege the language necessary to &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;apply &lt;/ins&gt;the &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; to the 3 year statute of limitations?&amp;lt;/summary&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Or, does the indictment remain silent and merely allege the incident date?&amp;#160; In that situation, if the defendant challenges &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;the &lt;/del&gt;demurrer, would the state say in response, &amp;quot;we don't have to allege the facts giving rise to the exception.&amp;#160; Rather, the burden is on the defendant to show that the exception doesn't apply?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Or, does the indictment remain silent and merely allege the incident date?&amp;#160; In that situation, if the defendant challenges &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;via a &lt;/ins&gt;demurrer, would the state say in response, &amp;quot;we don't have to allege the facts giving rise to the exception.&amp;#160; Rather, the burden is on the defendant to show that the exception doesn't apply?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A similar question can be asked regarding sex offenses which might appear to be past the statute of limitations, but have not yet run because the victim has not, for example, reached the age of 30.&amp;#160; Does the prosecutor in your county allege something which would satisfy the ''exception'' to the statute of limitations or does the prosecutor argue it is the defendant's burden to prove the exception doesn't apply?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A similar question can be asked regarding sex offenses which might appear to be past the statute of limitations, but have not yet run because the victim has not, for example, reached the age of 30.&amp;#160; Does the prosecutor in your county allege something which would satisfy the ''exception'' to the statute of limitations or does the prosecutor argue it is the defendant's burden to prove the exception doesn't apply?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In my experience, the state alleges the facts necessary to support the exception to the statute of limitations.&amp;#160; Is your experience the same?&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In my experience, the state &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;in fact &lt;/ins&gt;alleges the facts necessary to support the exception to the statute of limitations.&amp;#160; Is your experience the same?&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why do I ask?&amp;#160; Because the above examples serve as very effective analogs to the improper joinder demurrer.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why do I ask?&amp;#160; Because the above examples serve as very effective analogs to the improper joinder demurrer.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ryan@ryanscottlaw.com at 03:56, May 14, 2013</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, this isn't the worst argument in the world.&amp;#160; Defendant's demurrer, then defendant's burden. It has a certain symmetry.&amp;#160; But it would also mean the demurrer could never win, because the indictment is never going to say &amp;quot;these counts are improperly joined.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; And if the indictment doesn't say that, if it's silent, and you can't go beyond the four corners of the indictment, the defendant would never be able to prove improper joinder.&amp;#160; So for the prosecutor to be correct, the legislature must have created a remedy (a demurrer) that could never, ever prevail.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, this isn't the worst argument in the world.&amp;#160; Defendant's demurrer, then defendant's burden. It has a certain symmetry.&amp;#160; But it would also mean the demurrer could never win, because the indictment is never going to say &amp;quot;these counts are improperly joined.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; And if the indictment doesn't say that, if it's silent, and you can't go beyond the four corners of the indictment, the defendant would never be able to prove improper joinder.&amp;#160; So for the prosecutor to be correct, the legislature must have created a remedy (a demurrer) that could never, ever prevail.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;But getting &lt;/del&gt;back to the SOL examples above, if the state feels the need to allege in the indictment the facts supporting the exceptions to the default SOL, why wouldn't the same rule apply to the improper joinder demurrer?&amp;#160; We don't -- at least I've never seen it -- expect the defendant to prove (while simultaneously limited to the four corner of the indictment) that no exception to the SOL would apply.&amp;#160;  Similarly, when the indictment, on its face, violates the no-more-than-one-count-in-the-indictment rule, we shouldn't expect the defendant to prove something he can never prove as a matter of law.&amp;#160;  Rather, the trial court should grant the demurrer and dismiss the indictment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I submit, instead, that it's the state's burden, not yours, to justify the exceptions.&amp;#160; Getting &lt;/ins&gt;back to the SOL examples above, if the state feels the need to allege in the indictment the facts supporting the exceptions to the default SOL, why wouldn't the same rule apply to the improper joinder demurrer?&amp;#160; We don't -- at least I've never seen it -- expect the defendant to prove (while simultaneously limited to the four corner of the indictment) that no exception to the SOL would apply.&amp;#160;  Similarly, when the indictment, on its face, violates the no-more-than-one-count-in-the-indictment rule, we shouldn't expect the defendant to prove something he can never prove as a matter of law.&amp;#160;  Rather, the trial court should grant the demurrer and dismiss the indictment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What this means, practically speaking, is that you should file the improper joinder demurrer even when the facts might support joinder, as long as the indictment itself is deficient because it doesn't have the necessary language in it.&amp;#160; You'd do the same thing for an indictment that appeared to violate the SOL, even if you believe there were facts to support the extended SOL.&amp;#160; Why?&amp;#160; Because if you lose the demurrer in front of the trial court, it might win at the COA. In that situation, at worst your client gets a new trial.&amp;#160; At best, it is now too late to reindict.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What this means, practically speaking, is that you should file the improper joinder demurrer even when the facts might support joinder, as long as the indictment itself is deficient because it doesn't have the necessary language in it.&amp;#160; You'd do the same thing for an indictment that appeared to violate the SOL, even if you believe there were facts to support the extended SOL.&amp;#160; Why?&amp;#160; Because if you lose the demurrer in front of the trial court, it might win at the COA. In that situation, at worst your client gets a new trial.&amp;#160; At best, it is now too late to reindict.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{wl-publish: 2013-05-13 20:44:49 -0700 | Ryan }}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{wl-publish: 2013-05-13 20:44:49 -0700 | Ryan }}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ryan@ryanscottlaw.com at 03:54, May 14, 2013</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(1) A charging instrument must charge but one offense, and in one form only, except that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(1) A charging instrument must charge but one offense, and in one form only, except that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (a) Where the offense may be committed by the use of different means, &lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the charging instrument may allege the means in the alternative.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (b) Two or more offenses may be charged in the same charging instrument &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (b) Two or more offenses may be charged in the same charging instrument &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;in a separate count for each offense if the offenses charged are alleged to &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &lt;/ins&gt;in a separate count for each offense if the offenses charged are alleged to &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;have been committed by the same person or persons and are:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &lt;/ins&gt;have been committed by the same person or persons and are:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (A) Of the same or similar character;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (A) Of the same or similar character;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (C) Based on two or more acts or transactions connected together or &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (C) Based on two or more acts or transactions connected together or &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;constituting parts of a common scheme or plan. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; &lt;/ins&gt;constituting parts of a common scheme or plan. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As with the statute of limitations, the key word is &amp;quot;except.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; The default is one thing (3 years SOL, a single count in the indictment), and the exception is something else (6 year statute of limitations for felony Theft by deception in some circumstances/mult-count indictment if same act or transaction, common scheme or plan, etc.).&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As with the statute of limitations, the key word is &amp;quot;except.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; The default is one thing (3 years SOL, a single count in the indictment), and the exception is something else (6 year statute of limitations for felony Theft by deception in some circumstances/mult-count indictment if same act or transaction, common scheme or plan, etc.).&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ryan@ryanscottlaw.com at 03:50, May 14, 2013</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(1) A charging instrument must charge but one offense, and in one form only, except that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:(1) A charging instrument must charge but one offense, and in one form only, except that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;the charging instrument may allege the means in the alternative.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (b) Two or more offenses may be charged in the same charging instrument in a separate count for each offense if the offenses charged are alleged to have been committed by the same person or persons and are:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (b) Two or more offenses may be charged in the same charging instrument &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;in a separate count for each offense if the offenses charged are alleged to &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;have been committed by the same person or persons and are:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (B) Based on the same act or transaction; or&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (B) Based on the same act or transaction; or&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (C) Based on two or more acts or transactions connected together or constituting parts of a common scheme or plan. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (C) Based on two or more acts or transactions connected together or &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;constituting parts of a common scheme or plan. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As with the statute of limitations, the key word is &amp;quot;except.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; The default is one thing (3 years SOL, a single count in the indictment), and the exception is something else (6 year statute of limitations for felony Theft by deception in some circumstances/mult-count indictment if same act or transaction, common scheme or plan, etc.).&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As with the statute of limitations, the key word is &amp;quot;except.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; The default is one thing (3 years SOL, a single count in the indictment), and the exception is something else (6 year statute of limitations for felony Theft by deception in some circumstances/mult-count indictment if same act or transaction, common scheme or plan, etc.).&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Or, does the indictment remain silent and merely allege the incident date?&amp;#160; In that situation, if the defendant challenges the demurrer, would the state say in response, &amp;quot;we don't have to allege the facts giving rise to the exception.&amp;#160; Rather, the burden is on the defendant to show that the exception doesn't apply?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Or, does the indictment remain silent and merely allege the incident date?&amp;#160; In that situation, if the defendant challenges the demurrer, would the state say in response, &amp;quot;we don't have to allege the facts giving rise to the exception.&amp;#160; Rather, the burden is on the defendant to show that the exception doesn't apply?&amp;quot;&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A similar question can be asked regarding sex offenses which might appear to be past the statute of limitations, but have not yet run because the victim has not, for example, reached the age of 30 &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;yet&lt;/del&gt;.&amp;#160; Does the prosecutor in your county allege something which would satisfy the exception to the statute of limitations or does the prosecutor argue it is the defendant's burden to prove the exception doesn't apply?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A similar question can be asked regarding sex offenses which might appear to be past the statute of limitations, but have not yet run because the victim has not, for example, reached the age of 30.&amp;#160; Does the prosecutor in your county allege something which would satisfy the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;exception&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'' &lt;/ins&gt;to the statute of limitations or does the prosecutor argue it is the defendant's burden to prove the exception doesn't apply?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In my experience, the state alleges the facts necessary to support the exception to the statute of limitations.&amp;#160; Is your experience the same?&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In my experience, the state alleges the facts necessary to support the exception to the statute of limitations.&amp;#160; Is your experience the same?&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why do I ask?&amp;#160; Because the above examples serve as &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;a &lt;/del&gt;very effective &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;analog &lt;/del&gt;to the improper joinder demurrer.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why do I ask?&amp;#160; Because the above examples serve as very effective &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;analogs &lt;/ins&gt;to the improper joinder demurrer.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just as the statute of limitations for felony Theft is three years, the presumptive indictment is only allowed to contain a single count.&amp;#160; Sound crazy?&amp;#160; ORS 132.560 says:&amp;#160; &amp;quot;(1) A charging instrument '''must charge but one offense, and in one form only'''. . . .&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just as the statute of limitations for felony Theft is three years, the presumptive indictment is only allowed to contain a single count.&amp;#160; Sound crazy?&amp;#160; ORS 132.560 says:&amp;#160; &amp;quot;(1) A charging instrument '''must charge but one offense, and in one form only'''. . . .&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (C) Based on two or more acts or transactions connected together or constituting parts of a common scheme or plan. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &amp;#160; &amp;#160; (C) Based on two or more acts or transactions connected together or constituting parts of a common scheme or plan. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As with the statute of limitations, the key word is &amp;quot;except.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; The default is one thing (3 years SOL, a single count in the indictment), and the exception is something else (6 year statute of limitations for felony Theft by deception in some circumstances/&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;more than one &lt;/del&gt;count &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;in the &lt;/del&gt;indictment).&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As with the statute of limitations, the key word is &amp;quot;except.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; The default is one thing (3 years SOL, a single count in the indictment), and the exception is something else (6 year statute of limitations for felony Theft by deception in some circumstances/&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;mult-&lt;/ins&gt;count indictment &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;if same act or transaction, common scheme or plan, etc.&lt;/ins&gt;).&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So my question is this:&amp;#160; if the prosecutor in your county feels it is necessary to add the language supporting the exception to the default statute of limitations, why wouldn't she similarly need to allege the language (same act or transaction or common scheme or plan) that justifies the exception to the one-count-in-the-indictment rule?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So my question is this:&amp;#160; if the prosecutor in your county feels it is necessary to add the language supporting the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;exception&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'' &lt;/ins&gt;to the default statute of limitations, why wouldn't she similarly need to allege the language (same act or transaction or common scheme or plan) that justifies the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;exception&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'' &lt;/ins&gt;to the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;only-&lt;/ins&gt;one-count-in-the-indictment rule?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This comes up when you've filed the improper joinder demurrer.&amp;#160; Let's assume the crimes are Criminal Mischief and Unlawful Use of a Weapon.&amp;#160; These two crimes may be from the same criminal episode or they may not be.&amp;#160; They may be part of a common scheme or plan but maybe not.&amp;#160; But the indictment is silent.&amp;#160; It doesn't allege either of those things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This comes up when you've filed the improper joinder demurrer.&amp;#160; Let's assume the crimes are Criminal Mischief and Unlawful Use of a Weapon.&amp;#160; These two crimes may be from the same criminal episode or they may not be.&amp;#160; They may be part of a common scheme or plan but maybe not.&amp;#160; But the indictment is silent.&amp;#160; It doesn't allege either of those things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So you file the demurrer, and because it's a demurrer, the trial court can't consider &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;extraneous &lt;/del&gt;evidence.&amp;#160; For example, the prosecutor isn't allowed to offer facts &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;to support &lt;/del&gt;that these two crimes come from the same criminal episode, unless those &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; are in the indictment.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So you file the demurrer, and because it's a demurrer, the trial court can't consider &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;extrinsic &lt;/ins&gt;evidence.&amp;#160; For example, the prosecutor isn't allowed to offer facts &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;that show &lt;/ins&gt;that these two crimes come from the same criminal episode, unless those &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; are &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;contained &lt;/ins&gt;in the indictment.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The prosecutor agrees that everyone is limited to the language in the indictment, but the prosecutor argues, &amp;quot;but wait, it's the defendant's burden to prove &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;the &lt;/del&gt;exception to the one-count-in-the-indictment rule &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;doesn't apply&lt;/del&gt;.&amp;#160; It's not my &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;job &lt;/del&gt;to allege that the exception exists.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The prosecutor agrees that everyone is limited to the language in the indictment, but the prosecutor argues, &amp;quot;but wait, it's the defendant's burden to prove &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;no &lt;/ins&gt;exception to the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;only-&lt;/ins&gt;one-count-in-the-indictment rule &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;applies&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;#160; It's not my &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;burden &lt;/ins&gt;to allege &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;in the indictment &lt;/ins&gt;that the exception exists.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, this isn't the worst argument in the world.&amp;#160; Defendant's demurrer, then defendant's burden.&amp;#160; But it would also mean the demurrer could never win, because the indictment is never going to say &amp;quot;these counts are improperly joined.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; And if the indictment doesn't say that, if it's silent, and you can't go beyond the four corners of the indictment, the defendant would never be able to prove improper joinder.&amp;#160; So for the prosecutor to be correct, the legislature must have created a remedy (a demurrer) that could never, ever &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;win&lt;/del&gt;.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, this isn't the worst argument in the world.&amp;#160; Defendant's demurrer, then defendant's burden&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. It has a certain symmetry&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;#160; But it would also mean the demurrer could never win, because the indictment is never going to say &amp;quot;these counts are improperly joined.&amp;quot;&amp;#160; And if the indictment doesn't say that, if it's silent, and you can't go beyond the four corners of the indictment, the defendant would never be able to prove improper joinder.&amp;#160; So for the prosecutor to be correct, the legislature must have created a remedy (a demurrer) that could never, ever &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;prevail&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But getting back to the SOL examples above, if the state feels the need to allege the facts supporting &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;those &lt;/del&gt;exceptions, why wouldn't the same rule apply to the improper joinder demurrer?&amp;#160; We don't -- at least I've never seen it -- expect the defendant to prove (while limited to the four corner of the indictment) that no exception &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;would apply, when on its face the indictment appears outside &lt;/del&gt;the SOL. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;Similarly, when the indictment, on its &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;fact&lt;/del&gt;, violates the no-more-than-one-count-in-the-indictment rule, we shouldn't expect the defendant to prove something he can never prove.&amp;#160;  &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;The &lt;/del&gt;trial court should dismiss the indictment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But getting back to the SOL examples above, if the state feels the need to allege &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;in the indictment &lt;/ins&gt;the facts supporting &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;the &lt;/ins&gt;exceptions &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;to the default SOL&lt;/ins&gt;, why wouldn't the same rule apply to the improper joinder demurrer?&amp;#160; We don't -- at least I've never seen it -- expect the defendant to prove (while &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;simultaneously &lt;/ins&gt;limited to the four corner of the indictment) that no exception &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;to &lt;/ins&gt;the SOL &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;would apply&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;#160; &lt;/ins&gt;Similarly, when the indictment, on its &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;face&lt;/ins&gt;, violates the no-more-than-one-count-in-the-indictment rule, we shouldn't expect the defendant to prove something he can never prove &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;as a matter of law&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;#160;  &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Rather, the &lt;/ins&gt;trial court should &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;grant the demurrer and &lt;/ins&gt;dismiss the indictment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What this means, practically speaking, is that you should file the improper joinder demurrer even when the facts &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;would &lt;/del&gt;support joinder, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;if &lt;/del&gt;the indictment is &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;nevertheless &lt;/del&gt;deficient because it doesn't have the necessary language in it.&amp;#160; You'd do the same thing for an indictment that appeared to violate the SOL, even if you believe there were facts to support the extended SOL.&amp;#160; Why?&amp;#160; Because if you lose the demurrer, it might win at the COA, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;and &lt;/del&gt;at worst your client gets a new trial.&amp;#160; At best, it is now too late to reindict.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What this means, practically speaking, is that you should file the improper joinder demurrer even when the facts &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;might &lt;/ins&gt;support joinder, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;as long as &lt;/ins&gt;the indictment &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;itself &lt;/ins&gt;is deficient because it doesn't have the necessary language in it.&amp;#160; You'd do the same thing for an indictment that appeared to violate the SOL, even if you believe there were facts to support the extended SOL.&amp;#160; Why?&amp;#160; Because if you lose the demurrer &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;in front of the trial court&lt;/ins&gt;, it might win at the COA&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. In that situation&lt;/ins&gt;, at worst your client gets a new trial.&amp;#160; At best, it is now too late to reindict.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{wl-publish: 2013-05-13 20:44:49 -0700 | Ryan }}&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ryan@ryanscottlaw.com: Created page with &quot;I want to ask you something about how things are done in your county.  Let's assume the defendant is charged with felony theft by deception.  Let's further assume the theft oc...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;I want to ask you something about how things are done in your county.  Let&amp;#039;s assume the defendant is charged with felony theft by deception.  Let&amp;#039;s further assume the theft oc...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I want to ask you something about how things are done in your county.  Let's assume the defendant is charged with felony theft by deception.  Let's further assume the theft occurred four years ago (5/13/2009), but it wasn't indicted until today.&lt;br /&gt;
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The statute of limitations for felony theft is 3 years.  ORS 131.125(6)(a).  So the indictment is subject to a challenge for being outside the statute of limitations?   But there is an &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; to the three year statute of limitation, and it is under sub (7) of the same statute.  It says:&lt;br /&gt;
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:(a) If the offense has as a material element either fraud or the breach of a fiduciary obligation, prosecution may be commenced within one year after discovery of the offense by an aggrieved party or by a person who has a legal duty to represent an aggrieved party and who is not a party to the offense, but in no case shall the period of limitation otherwise applicable be extended by more than three years;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;summary&amp;gt;So here is my question:  when the indictment is filed 4 years after the incident occurred, does the indictment in your county -- in order to survive the challenge -- allege that the discovery of the offense was discovered by the aggrieved party with the past year?  That is, does the indictment allege the language necessary to justify the &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; to the 3 year statute of limitations?&amp;lt;/summary&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Or, does the indictment remain silent and merely allege the incident date?  In that situation, if the defendant challenges the demurrer, would the state say in response, &amp;quot;we don't have to allege the facts giving rise to the exception.  Rather, the burden is on the defendant to show that the exception doesn't apply?&amp;quot;  &lt;br /&gt;
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A similar question can be asked regarding sex offenses which might appear to be past the statute of limitations, but have not yet run because the victim has not, for example, reached the age of 30 yet.  Does the prosecutor in your county allege something which would satisfy the exception to the statute of limitations or does the prosecutor argue it is the defendant's burden to prove the exception doesn't apply?&lt;br /&gt;
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In my experience, the state alleges the facts necessary to support the exception to the statute of limitations.  Is your experience the same?  &lt;br /&gt;
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Why do I ask?  Because the above examples serve as a very effective analog to the improper joinder demurrer.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Just as the statute of limitations for felony Theft is three years, the presumptive indictment is only allowed to contain a single count.  Sound crazy?  ORS 132.560 says:  &amp;quot;(1) A charging instrument '''must charge but one offense, and in one form only'''. . . .&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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But wait, what did I leave out and replace with that ellipsis?  Well, I left out the &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; to one count rule.   The full sentence says:&lt;br /&gt;
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:(1) A charging instrument must charge but one offense, and in one form only, except that:&lt;br /&gt;
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      (a) Where the offense may be committed by the use of different means, the charging instrument may allege the means in the alternative.&lt;br /&gt;
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      (b) Two or more offenses may be charged in the same charging instrument in a separate count for each offense if the offenses charged are alleged to have been committed by the same person or persons and are:&lt;br /&gt;
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      (A) Of the same or similar character;&lt;br /&gt;
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      (B) Based on the same act or transaction; or&lt;br /&gt;
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      (C) Based on two or more acts or transactions connected together or constituting parts of a common scheme or plan. &lt;br /&gt;
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As with the statute of limitations, the key word is &amp;quot;except.&amp;quot;  The default is one thing (3 years SOL, a single count in the indictment), and the exception is something else (6 year statute of limitations for felony Theft by deception in some circumstances/more than one count in the indictment).  &lt;br /&gt;
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So my question is this:  if the prosecutor in your county feels it is necessary to add the language supporting the exception to the default statute of limitations, why wouldn't she similarly need to allege the language (same act or transaction or common scheme or plan) that justifies the exception to the one-count-in-the-indictment rule?&lt;br /&gt;
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This comes up when you've filed the improper joinder demurrer.  Let's assume the crimes are Criminal Mischief and Unlawful Use of a Weapon.  These two crimes may be from the same criminal episode or they may not be.  They may be part of a common scheme or plan but maybe not.  But the indictment is silent.  It doesn't allege either of those things.&lt;br /&gt;
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So you file the demurrer, and because it's a demurrer, the trial court can't consider extraneous evidence.  For example, the prosecutor isn't allowed to offer facts to support that these two crimes come from the same criminal episode, unless those &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; are in the indictment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The prosecutor agrees that everyone is limited to the language in the indictment, but the prosecutor argues, &amp;quot;but wait, it's the defendant's burden to prove the exception to the one-count-in-the-indictment rule doesn't apply.  It's not my job to allege that the exception exists.&amp;quot;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Well, this isn't the worst argument in the world.  Defendant's demurrer, then defendant's burden.  But it would also mean the demurrer could never win, because the indictment is never going to say &amp;quot;these counts are improperly joined.&amp;quot;  And if the indictment doesn't say that, if it's silent, and you can't go beyond the four corners of the indictment, the defendant would never be able to prove improper joinder.  So for the prosecutor to be correct, the legislature must have created a remedy (a demurrer) that could never, ever win.  &lt;br /&gt;
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But getting back to the SOL examples above, if the state feels the need to allege the facts supporting those exceptions, why wouldn't the same rule apply to the improper joinder demurrer?  We don't -- at least I've never seen it -- expect the defendant to prove (while limited to the four corner of the indictment) that no exception would apply, when on its face the indictment appears outside the SOL.  Similarly, when the indictment, on its fact, violates the no-more-than-one-count-in-the-indictment rule, we shouldn't expect the defendant to prove something he can never prove.   The trial court should dismiss the indictment.&lt;br /&gt;
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What this means, practically speaking, is that you should file the improper joinder demurrer even when the facts would support joinder, if the indictment is nevertheless deficient because it doesn't have the necessary language in it.  You'd do the same thing for an indictment that appeared to violate the SOL, even if you believe there were facts to support the extended SOL.  Why?  Because if you lose the demurrer, it might win at the COA, and at worst your client gets a new trial.  At best, it is now too late to reindict.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ryan@ryanscottlaw.com</name></author>	</entry>

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